The RV-10 is a low wing, four place,
metal aircraft. It is being designed to accept engines
in the 200-260 hp range. It is intended as a moderately
fast touring airplane that will carry four real people,
a reasonable amount of baggage and about 60 gallons of
fuel. It will not be aerobatic, although we are working
hard to endow it with enjoyable handling
characteristics, including the typical RV
characteristics of excellent low-speed handling and
control. With a 260 HP engine, we are hoping for
cross-country speeds approaching that of a 180 hp
RV-7/8. With more economical 200-220 HP engines, cruise
speeds would be about 15 mph lower, but take off and
climb performance should still be good. Given the
intended mission only a fixed tricycle gear is planned.
The tail will consist of a
constant-chord horizontal stabilizer and elevators with
riveted trailing edges, similar to the current RV-9A.
The vertical stab and rudder are typically RV. Engineer
Mike Schwartz has designed some innovative ribs that
should make the control surfaces easier and quicker than
ever to build.
The wing, at least at the moment, is
a constant chord design with a 31.5’ span and single
slotted flaps. The wing area calculates out at 147 sq.
ft. which yields an aspect ratio of 6.75. This is
greater than both the 4.76 of the RV-4, and even the
6.34 of the RV-9. The higher aspect ratio is desired
(necessary?) to enhance climb and glide performance of a
heavier airplane. The airfoil section we have chosen
will (heh, heh,) remain a secret at this time.
The fuselage bears a passing
resemblance to the rest of the side-by-side RV family,
and provides forward facing seats for four reasonably
sized adults. After considering sliding canopies, hinged
hatches, transporter technology licensed from Starfleet,
and other options, we settled (although we may still
change our minds) on doors, one on each side. We’d
prefer a single door, for simplicity and fuselage
strength, but are afraid buyers would disagree.
The firewall forward portion is open
to a variety of available engine options. We are
tentatively planning on a 260 HP Lyc. IO-540 engine for
the prototype. Other 6 cylinder engines, from the lower
HP Cont. IO-360 and PZL Franklin 6A-350, through the
larger Cont. IO-470 and IO-520, are possibilities. A lot
will depend on used engine prices and availability, and
on customer preference. Though there are a lot of
possibilities, we’ll have to limit the number of
firewall forward options which we can practically offer.
The kit? The metal portions of the
kit are planned to be totally matched-hole, similar to
the RV-7/9A kits we are selling today. We hope to make
the standard kits even easier to build, and of course,
there will eventually be RV-10 QB kits. Realistically,
with an airframe at least 25% larger, twice the number
of seats, doors, a baggage door, etc. will take
noticeably longer to build than a comparably technology
RV-9A or RV-7. Kit cost? It’s much too early to
speculate with any accuracy. As with our other kits,
we’ll be striving to make this one a good value.
Total cost? the latest Trade-A-Plane
shows several used O-540s in the $10-15K range… so a
new RV-10 with a simple panel and a used engine turning
a good c/s prop might cost about $65,000. This is a wild
preliminary guess and those who take it as gospel have
only themselves to blame if it proves inaccurate…but
just for grins, triple it, and compare the result to any
new four-place airplane of even remotely similar
performance. The new (again) Tiger at over $200K? A
Cirrus SR22 at $276K? A Columbia at $275K? I expect that
the truly "budget" RV-10 will be uncommon and
that more of them will be fitted out as well-appointed
touring machines, with appropriately higher price tags.
In keeping with Van’s original (and current)
philosophy, the expensive decisions are left to the
individual builder, not built in at the factory.
Recently, we announced that Van’s had begun
work on a 4 place kitplane, the RV-10. Since then we have
received some letters and E-mail praising our efforts, a few
condemning them, and several suggesting design features the
writer felt would be desirable. These letters are always
interesting…if nothing else they demonstrate how varied the
demands of the market can be…one reason why all airplanes are
flying compromises.
One writer suggested a short list of design
features he thought appropriate, along with his rationalization
for "doing it that way." In addition answering his
letter, I felt that maybe a discussion of a couple of his
suggested points might be of interest to all of you; so that you
can better understand why we are following the design path we
have chosen.
His suggestions:
- 1. Use a short span, low aspect ratio, "thick"
wing, much as we have done on most of our previous designs.
He reasons that such a wing does not impair wing drag or
lift and that the RV’s good climb rate with short wings is
achieved because of a low wing loading. Such a wing would
also provide better spar depth and strength, the wider chord
would mean less sensitive C.G. limits and it might achieve a
greater angle of attack at stall.
- 2. Use a sliding canopy — at least as an option.
Let’s take a look at the reasoning in the
first suggestion, point by point. It is true that we have used
low aspect ratio "fat" wings very successfully on most
RV designs. However, those airplanes were designed for a job the
four-place will not be called upon to do. They were airplanes
designed for aerobatics and sport flying. The short wing was
easy to build, and the short span meant low bending moments,
increased strength and rapid roll acceleration. But now the job
required of the RV-10 is different. Will a wing that serves the
sport RV work as well on an easy-to-fly, efficient-cruising,
people-mover?
First, a few definitions:
- Wing loading
is, of course, the area of the wing
divided by the weight that it must lift. An 1800 lb airplane
with a wing area of 100 square feet has a wing loading of 18
lbs/ft2.
- Span loading
is calculated by dividing the wingspan by
the weight. An airplane with a weight of 1800 lbs and a span
of 25’ has a span loading of 72 lbs/ft.
- Power loading
is the weight of the airplane divided by
the power propelling it. An airplane weighing 1800 lbs being
pulled along by 200 hp has a power loading of 9 lbs/hp. (By
some twisted semantic reasoning, a "high" power
loading is a lower number…an airplane with a power loading
of 15 lbs/hp is said to have a "higher" power
loading than one with 20 lbs/hp. This was probably dreamed up
by the same guy who decided that larger AWG drill sizes would
have smaller numbers…).
|
|
RV-3 |
RV-10
(with RV-3 wing parameters) |
Low aspect wing
RV-10 with 147 sq. ft. area |
High aspect wing RV-10
(current thinking) |
|
Power (hp) |
125 |
321 |
200-260 |
200-260 |
|
Wing area (ft2) |
90 |
231 |
147 |
147 |
|
Wing span ft |
20 |
32.05 |
26.44 |
31.5 |
|
Wing chord (in) |
54 |
86.5 |
66.8 |
56 |
|
Aspect ratio |
4.44:1 |
4.44:1 |
4.44:1 |
6.75:1 |
|
Gross Weight (lbs) |
1050 |
2700 |
2700 |
2700 |
|
Span Loading (lb/ft) |
52.5 |
84.2 |
102.1 |
85.7 |
|
Power Loading (lb/hp) |
8.4 |
8.4 |
13.5-10.4 |
13.5-10.4 |
|
Wing loading (lb/ft2) |
11.67 |
11.67 |
18.37 |
18.37 |
First, consider climb rate. Basically, climb
rate is linked most closely to power loading. It is determined
by the engine horsepower or thrust available in excess of
that required to maintain level flight. But span and span
loading come into play as well. Everything else being equal, a
shorter, lower aspect ratio wing has a higher induced drag,
especially at low speeds, than a wing with a greater span and
lower span loading. The shorter wing requires more horsepower
just to maintain level flight at low speed. Since the power
available is finite, this means less power remains for climb.
The RV-9A is another example of how,
sometimes, power loading is more important than wing or span loading
at climb speed. Although its longer wing gives it a lower wing
loading and lower span loading than the RV-6A, its climb rate
(for a same size engine) is not dramatically better. But, if
these airplanes were flown at 50% power (or at high altitudes
where power output diminishes), the benefits of the RV-9A’s
lower span loading would become more noticeable. Handling
qualities or control feel are also considerations. At low
speeds, the RV-9A is noticeably better because of its lower span
loading.
Even though the induced drag is higher at
typical climb speeds with a low aspect ratio wing than it is
with a high aspect ratio, most RVs have a good climb rate
because they have a lot of horsepower per pound of flying
weight; around 10 lb/hp or better. This more than offsets the
induced drag of the short wing.
It is only when airplanes with low power, or
low power loadings, are considered that the relationship of span
loading and climb rate become primarily important, even
critical. Consider my DG-400 self-launch sailplane. It has a
span of 57 ft., a flying weight of 1000 lbs, a whopping 43 HP,
and a respectable 600 fpm climb rate. Interestingly, its weight
is almost the same as the RV-3. How well do you imagine the
short winged RV-3 would climb with only 43 HP?
Now, let’s apply some of these
considerations to a potential 4-place airplane. The table shows
some rough examples of specifications a 4-place airplane might
have if its wing design were driven by various goals. In the
left RV-10 column, and in Fig. 1, we have a hypothetical
airplane with the same aspect ratio and the same wing loading as
an RV-3. Just doesn’t look right, does it? From the structural
viewpoint, there’s a lot of problems here. Such a wing would
require a much bigger horizontal tail, it would be difficult to
attach to a sleek fuselage, etc. And on the performance end, we
have calculated that, to have climb rates equal to an RV-3, such
an airplane would require 321 horsepower. Bad news… the real
world hasn’t provided us with a practical engine choice in
this horsepower range. We are designing around engines that are
readily available, betweem 200 and 250 horsepower, so we are
essentially back to the "low power" scenario. Our
power loading is going to be much lower than the RV-3, and if we
are to achieve a respectable climb rate, we need to have a
longer span/lower span loading. The induced drag the short wing
assumes a proportionately larger role, and there isn’t enough
power to overcome it.
The middle RV-10 column (see Fig. 2)
describes an airplane with 147 square feet of wing area (our
working number on the RV-10), but with the same aspect ratio as
an RV-3. In the right column, we have our current RV-10
thinking.
Either of the lower wing area (147 sq. ft.)
examples should yield a higher cruise speed. By choosing a
higher aspect ratio wing, we can maintain the same span loading
as we would have had with the large, low aspect ratio wing.
Thus, despite the higher wing loading, we expect a climb rate as
good as could have been achieved with greater wing area. However
if we chose the low wing area along with the short span, the
climb and descent rates would suffer. Since our wing loading is
considerably higher, the stall speed will be higher, although we
expect to limit the stall speed through the use of long,
efficient flaps.
The flip side of climb performance is glide
performance. With a high enough power loading, you can have a
good climb rate even with a high wing loading and short span,
but such an airplane won’t glide well. While we want to climb
at the highest possible rate, we don’t want our power off
descents to be at an excessively high rate. The same aerodynamic
factors that cause an airplane to climb poorly cause it to glide
poorly also. We want to avoid the "streamlined brick"
syndrome, so we can end up with an airplane with descent rates
and angles that minimize piloting skills and workload. Thus, a
wing with a greater span and lower span loading is perhaps more
important for glide performance than climb performance. For
example, take the Space Shuttle. It’s all thrust and no wing
on the way up, all wing (what there is of it) and no thrust on
the way down. It is a dreadful glider that requires great
precision to fly safely. The designers had to make awful
aerodynamic choices to accomplish the mission.
How about next point: greater spar strength,
wider chord for less sensitive C.G. limits and a greater angle
of attack at stall?
Basically, we agree. However, while the wider
chord does improve the C.G. range, measured in inches, the
expanded range requires larger trim forces. This means, for a
given wing area, either one needs more spacing between the wing
center and the horizontal stabilizer, or a larger stabilizer or
both. Either way, it means more drag. Regarding the higher angle
of attack at stall: there doesn’t seem to be any particular
reason that is this desirable. In fact, it may just permit the
pilot to prematurely hit the tail on the ground upon landing.

Figure 1, above, shows a wing with the RV-3 wing loading and
aspect ratio, scaled up to fit the proposed RV-10. Notice that
the horizontal tail area must be increased as well.
Figure 2, below, shows a wing with the proposed 147 square
feet of area, but with the RV-3 aspect ratio.
Neither wing will really do the job the RV-10 requires.

What about the assumption that a
"thick" wing does not impair wing drag or lift?
Here, we must disagree, at least in
principal. From the studies we have done, and from the experts
we have consulted with, thicker airfoils do have higher
drag, and they do have reduced lift.* The ideal
thickness seems to be approximately 12%. We can see an example
in sailplane racing. While sailplanes may not normally be viewed
as racers, that’s exactly what they become in soaring
competitions, and low drag is everything to a racer.
Historically, sailplane wing spans kept getting longer and
aspect ratios higher. This was the way to improve performance,
which for sailplanes, meant glide angle or Lift/Drag ratios, and
climb rates. Airfoil thicknesses of 18% were common in order to
achieve the spar depth required to get the necessary strength
with the wood and aluminum materials of the day. One high
performance sailplane of the 1960's had a 20% thick wing! The
benefits of the greater spans and aspect ratios offset the
losses of the thick airfoils. With the advent of fiberglass
construction, greater strength permitted thinner airfoils. Not
much thinner, because spars needed to be made over-strength to
achieve sufficient stiffness. Now that carbon fiber, which is
much stiffer, is more affordably available for use in spars,
airfoils have been getting much thinner. Some of the highest
performance sailplanes now have airfoil thicknesses of around
13%. For a typical 15 meter ship, this means a wing root
thickness of about 4 inches---only 4 inches deep and it
stretches out almost 25 ft. on each side…a tough construction
problem! If the drag of thicker airfoils was not a penalty, then
leading sailplane manufacturers would not be working so hard to
make them thinner.
However… drag rise and lift loss do not
vary in direct proportion to thickness. Usually, relatively
little is lost through a thickness increase of a few percent, so
designers often use a thicker-than-aerodynamically-optimum
airfoil. The weight savings of a deeper spar and the added
internal volume (for fuel or retractable landing gear) are
reasonable trade-offs for slightly impaired efficiency.
For the RV-10 airfoil we have struck a
compromise between the thickness needed for spar strength and a
reasonable drag coefficient. The dust settled at 16% thick. With
a custom-designed airfoil section, we hope to achieve a somewhat
wider range of laminar flow than with the NACA 230 airfoils we
have been using. We hope this will keep the drag down even with
the thicker section. We know that the lift of a 16% thick
airfoil is less than that of a thinner section.
Through the use of carefully designed flaps,
we should be able to neutralize this loss, too. As of now, the
design calls for a flap span of 51% of the total span, after
fuselage width, aileron and tip spans are subtracted. So, since
the benefit of the flap affects only half of the wing, we still
lose a little, overall, because of the thicker wing.
Sigh! Compromises and more compromises. Even
with the span and aspect ratio we have chosen for the RV-10
wing, it will not be a fabulous glider. It's a compromise, but
we feel that it is a wise one.
Now. About that sliding canopy.
We have ruled out a sliding canopy because we
feel that doors will permit easier cabin (don’t say cockpit)
entry for the wider variety of passengers expected to use a 4
seat airplane. A sliding canopy may actually be easier to design
and manufacture, but considering the size of a canopy necessary
to cover a 4 seat cabin, building it and achieving a good seal
might be an obstacle for the builder. Anyway, we are progressing
in the direction of gull wing doors.
We thank the respondent for his thoughtful
input. While we disagree with some of his design detail
conclusions and recommendations, his input did prompt these
ramblings which I hope will be of some interest and
enlightenment to our readers. Our usual disclaimer is in effect
for the super whiz-bang aero engineers within our readership:
the above is meant as fodder for the masses; not as a doctoral
thesis, so please don't grade us too harshly.
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For several days, our prototype builders
found themselves using table saws, wood rasps and air nailers
borrowed from the crating shop. The result was a cockpit
mock-up, simulating the cabin of the RV-10…maybe. We needed to
see if the ideas that looked good on paper actually worked in
three dimensions. While computer modeling can easily define and
modify dimensions, it can’t tell you that a six-foot tall
human has to make a difficult to twist into the seat if the door
sill is yea high, or that short people have nothing to grab when
trying to pull themselves up and out of the rear seats.
The mock-up also allows us to try variations
quickly and easily. A few seconds with a battery drill and a
handful of drywall screws can move a seat ½", which may be
all it takes to make the difference when you are trying to get a
knee under the instrument panel.
One of the biggest current questions on the
RV-10 fuselage is the control system. The new Lancair Columbia
and Cirrus airplanes use side-stick controllers, which allow
easy entrance into the airplane, lots of leg and
"wiggle" room, and a clean instrument panel. And,
since they are used on high-tech airplanes like the F-16 and
Airbus airliners, they have a certain cachet…modern, sexy,
etc.
We’d like to be just as sexy as the other guys, but the
control system is a big deal. There is no back-up. It must work,
and it must function reliably. The simpler it is, the easier it
will be to manufacture, and the better it will work. Fixing on
one idea and "making it work" is not a good design
technique. In the RV-10 we are tentatively planning gull-wing
doors with low sills. The problem comes in running the control
rods down the side of the airplane. The low sills make it easy
to step down into the cabin from the wing, but don’t leave a
lot of room for pushrods.
We have also played with conventional sticks
between knees, and a short stick on a center console, ala
Velocity or (for you Aussies/Kiwis) Victa Airtourer.
Phil Duyck has spent some time tack-welding
and riveting various combinations of tubing together, building
different systems to measure exactly how the rods move, what
kind of room they need and where they might interfere with
airframe or seating structures. No clear-cut winner has emerged
yet.
This is just one of the many aspects of the RV-10 that must
be worked out before we can commit to production. At this time,
many details of the airplane are undefined. We don’t know the
exact dimensions of the landing gear, the precise shape of the
cowl, or the number of cabin cupholders. We cannot predict when
the prototype might fly, or even exactly what it might look like
when it does.
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